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Gone are the harmless ‘be-bop’ days of hip hop.
The playful, novelty lyrics have now replaced by violent tales of living in
the ‘hood. Matthew Herel finds out the consequences for the fans...
All rapped up

US MC, Curtis '50 Cent' Jackson forces the
viewer to stare down the barrel of his handgun. The rapper's music is
heavily populated with tales of gun crime. |
“I catch you slipping, I’ma kill you. I ain’t playing, here what I’m
saying. Homie I ain’t playing. I catch you slipping I’ma kill you.”
This sinister threat is not the hard-hitting poetry of a modern day Wilfred
Owen - soldier/poet - describing the daily grind in Iraq. Neither is it
Donald Rumsfeld’s previously undisclosed warning to Saddam Hussein prior to
Gulf War II. It is not even Ken Livingstone’s latest attempt to fit his
entire foot in his mouth whilst speaking to a journalist. This is a lyrical
bullet from the infamous New York native, 50 “I’ve been shot nine times”
Cent. Not that it is a particularly violent lyric in comparison to some of
the swollen-chested emcee’s arsenal of libretto. On a scale of 1 - 10 of
brutish prose, 10 being the most violent, this would probably rank a five.
50 Cent is just one of the regiment of hip hop artists spearheading the
invasion upon the UK charts. The Queens native has sold over 10 million
copies of his debut album, ‘Get Rich or Die Tryin’”, and his second album,
‘The Massacre’ has already passed the platinum mark. Rap music is going
global at a remorseless rate.
Hip hop has always flourished in the midst of the controversy it causes.
Sexist and homophobic lyrics have long been a part of hip hop wordplay
(bitches and batty boys anyone?), and have caused outcry from women’s and
gay rights groups. These themes are also present in hip hop’s English
cousin, ‘grime’; a mesh of hip hop and England’s own garage sound that is
present on countless pirate radio stations across the capital. The one
fundamental theme covered in both hip hop and grime music however, that now
appears to partially accepted, and wholly expected, is violence. Ranging
from discussing the occasional fisticuffs, to planning the annihilation of
whole crews with AK-47 assault rifles, these are two genres of music that
are rife with violence.
There have long been available audio tapes and CDs that promise to help
users quit smoking or learn Swahili if listened to in their slumber. Whether
or not this technique works is a matter for trading standards. Moving on the
assumption that it does, it would seem fair to make the connection that
listening to something in a conscious condition could have an even more
influential impact then listening to it in a state of R.E.M. Is it fair to
say that musical content can actu-ally have a bearing on how listeners think
and act; do violent hip hop lyrics make violent hip hop fans?
The origins of many rap lyrics are grounded in reality. Artists paint
pictures of what happens in their ‘hoods from selling drugs to letting off
guns. According to BBC Radio 1xtra DJ, Ronnie Herel, “When gangster rap
first came out with artists like NWA, and Ice-T, it was guys talking about
where they were brought up. They were talking about their own life. It was
real talk. It was stuff that reflected directly to what they were aware of.
I think it sold so well because not only was it controversial, but a lot of
street kids could relate to it because they were growing up in that same
environment.” The multi-million selling albums of many hip hop artists such
as Eminem, Snoop Dogg and Jay-Z, however suggest that it is not just street
kids who relate to this way of life that are purchasing records. There must
be other factors, other than relating to the music that causes people to
follow hip hop. Ronnie Herel says, “When hip hop first came out, there was
nothing like it at all. It was very controversial, and anti-establishment.
I’ve always said it’s down to the individual who is into it, whether they
want to take it a step further and want to use the lyrical content of any
records that they hear to then go and emulate that or simulate that on the
street. It doesn’t really happen that often any more. I don’t often hear of
‘this guy shot that person, because of a record’”.
It does not look like hip hop fans often go out and shoot people after being
influenced by a record, but are there any other noticeable by-products?
Herel says, “In clubs, things don’t often kick off because of a hip hop
record. I think you get that more so on the grime scene. I did a gig in
Leeds once, and I played a song called ‘Oi’, by the More Fire Crew, a group
from London. I played it and the reaction was so aggressive, with people
shooting up their hands as gun signals. I just thought that’s wrong - it’s
the wrong message to be portraying in a club. It’s a pity because records
like that are great, but it saddens me that they are taken so seriously, and
can’t get played because people can’t behave themselves. It does instigate a
lot of trouble”.
“Wild on the dance floor/ When their song come on./ Swinging their fists/
Ready for war/ But it’s a different type of effect./ Its not violence./ They
just tranced by the events.” Prodigy of rap group Mobb Deep, taken from
‘Thunn and Kicko’
This has not been a positive advert for hip hop and grime so far. Although
the music does not cause people to go and shoot people, apparently it can
cause an aggressive and violent atmosphere. Tim Westwood, the Godfather of
hip hop in the UK, is one person who has felt the brunt of the type of
violence typified in rap music. In July 1999, the Radio 1 Rap Show host was
the victim of a drive-by shooting in south London. Even if this incident was
not influenced by hip hop, the fact that Westwood was the victim immediately
brings rap music into the fray. Has Westwood allowed violence to creep into
his persona? “No. I’m a DJ, man. I do parties. Radio 1 wouldn’t be keen if I
got stopped in a car with people carrying guns. Before the shooting, the
only people who knew me were the hip hop crowd. It made me big! I wish I had
an album out at that time!” says the radio patron.
Westwood brings a new dimension to the idea of hip hop violence. On the one
hand he says that getting caught with guns is not a good career move,
whoever you are; the pro hip hop stance strikes a blow in the direction of
the anti hip hop viewpoint. On the other hand, he speculates that getting
shot is good for your status and reputation; touché.
The reality of being a victim of a shooting attack raises the issue of the
law. What does the thin blue line think about the idea of kids singing along
to chart songs that relay violent deeds? When asked about the impact that
aggressive lyrics can have on those that listen to them, a spokesman for the
Metropolitan Police said, “It’s not really something that we can speculate
on. It’s not research that we’d conduct. It might be something that an
independent body might have done.” Operation Trident is a taskforce in the
Metropolitan Police that has been set up to investigate black on black crime
in the capital, so it seemed logical to think that if there is a connection
between violent behaviour and hip hop fans, they may be on the case. An
Operation Trident spokesperson said, “It’s not really something that we
would comment on. We haven’t looked for any connection. That would be
something for a criminologist or behavioural studies expert”.

This is a puzzling response from the authorities. Hip hop music is by
definition anti-establishment. If one was to make an anonymous phone call to
a random victim and spout some violent wordplay, such as the aforementioned
50 Cent lyric, it would be construed as threatening behaviour: a chargeable
offence. To go and record these threats on an album however, and unleash
them on the world can bring critical acclaim, worldwide appreciation and
untold riches. Surely this journalist cannot be the only person who has
considered that hip hop music may alter its fans manner and opinions?
Britain has never been a stranger to violent crime, but one fragment of this
demon that is on the increase is gun crime. ‘Mothers against guns’ is a
support group that was set up by the mother of 22 year old Damian Cope, who
was murdered in 2002. The group works as an alliance in an effort to rid
Britain’s streets of guns. Hazel Steele, a spokesperson for the
organisation, has considered the influence the lyrics of hip hop can have.
Steele says, “A lot of rap songs do have lyrics that can be considered
violent, which I think is why it is quite a controversial type of music. I
don’t think that everyone that listens to it will be influenced by it, but
there are a lot of young and impressionable kids that listen to it. If their
favourite rappers are telling them that they carry guns, then is going to
look cool to carry a gun.” So is Steele anti-hip hop? “A lot of the mothers
in our organisation have lost children to gun crime. I don’t know if any of
them would consider that rap music could have played a part in the
situation, but I do know that some of the victims have been fans of the
genre. I’m not against rap, but I think that whatever music people listen to
will influence them, and if their preference is rap, then they should be
responsible enough to see it as just music”.

Radio 1 DJ Tim Westwood: Did a shootout
increase his popularity? |
Hip hop is music that is targeted at adults.
There are parental advisory labels on singles and albums to stop those who
are not old enough from purchasing the music. The general consensus appears
to be that the music is not inherently bad, but that it is up to the
individual to distinguish between fantasy and reality. Whether the majority
of hip hop fans can do this is a different question. Peter Low of
Britishhiphop.co.uk – a definitive website on hip hop history – says, “There
is no such thing as a typical hip hop fan anymore. Maybe a few years ago
there would have been, but now the music has become too big for that. They
would probably be young and male. I don’t think the music makes listeners
act aggressively, although that may be true with the grime scene. It is all
down to the individual being able to realise that it is just music. I’ve
heard this argument, about hip hop spreading violence before. People go and
watch films and don’t get influenced. Why should it be the same for music?
The stereotype of hip hop fans right now would be someone really into ‘bling-bling’.
There is definitely an uplifting vibe in the UK hip hop scene. A lot of the
people who are involved in the industry or trying to break into the industry
just do it for the love of hip hop. Most people, like rappers and producers,
do it for no money. A lot of the lyrics in the UK scene are uplifting,
telling people about education and avoiding crime”.
Hip hop fans obviously find something in the genre that appeals to them.
Whether it is the controversy and anti-establishment focus or simply a
catchy chorus that appeals is down to each individual fan. Individual is the
key word in this sentence. As hip hop has grown into a global phenomenon,
its diversity is reflected in its fans. Does hip hop make people act
violently? That depends on the individual fan, and judging by the
performance of 50 Cent’s first album, there are a millions of them. If they
were all fire-arm toting, gun-nuts, the music would probably have been
banned a long time ago. A fan is an admirer and a supporter, but not a
mimic. After all, if they went out fighting and carrying guns, they could
probably make hip hop of their own.
Hip hop and grime fans are hard to stereotype because of the diversity of
the scene. Over the next few paragraphs are fans of the genre connected only by
their love for the music:
- Jonathan Jacobs, 21, from Loughton, Essex, is a student reading English
and History at Nottingham Trent University.

NEED TO KNOW
Street name Jay-J
Top 3 albums:
Notorious B.I.G. - Life after death
DMX -
Then there was X
Jay-Z - Volume 3: The life and times of Shawn Carter |
“I got into hip hop when I was about 11, 12. I remember the first song that
got me into hip hop. It was The Notorious B.I.G., mo money mo problems. I
like the beats, the music, and the rhymes. I’ve never really been able to
sympathise with gun culture and living in the hood and shit like that. I
like listening to people’s different stories and stuff. I prefer listening
to people’s stories rather than some girl singing about she loves someone. I
don’t really have one favourite artist, but I really like Jay Z. He stands
out. I like listening to everyone, I’m open-minded. I bought one of Nas’s
old albums recently.
“Hip Hop has given me a different outlook. If I grew up listening to
something like rock and roll, I’d be a different person today. I definitely
reckon it’s made me more streetwise. A typical hip hop fan is quite
outgoing, with a bit of attitude. The stereotype is that they are black. It
is mostly associated with black people obviously.
“People’s reactions to me being a hip hop fan are different. It depends on
who asks. If somebody is open minded, and I’ve met a lot of people who are
quite open minded with music, then they say that’s cool. They appreciate
that someone likes a specific type of music. But some people are quite
ignorant. People from small little places who have never really appreciated
it don’t really understand it very well. They just listen to the same old
thing all the time.
“Some of my mates at university don’t really understand why I like hip hop
because I’m a small little white boy. They’re like “what you listening to
all that stuff for?” They don’t really understand where it comes from. It’s
where you come from and who you grew up with that makes it relevant I
reckon.
“I go to a club if the music’s good, but most of the time I can’t find the
backing from my friends to go to hip hop clubs, so you have to conform to
where everyone else is going. I have been to hip hop clubs though. I haven’t
seen violence, but I’ve seen people dance to songs more aggressively. People
have a bit of an attitude when a song comes on. I wouldn’t say that’s true
for the whole of hip hop.
“I don’t think people would just outright say hip hop is shit, but at the
same time I don’t think they would really understand, coming from a
different perspective, like a rock perspective. They’ll listen to hip hop
and be like ‘Where’s the drums, where’s the guitars?’ They won’t really
understand it, because I think a lot of the time they listen to the music
and not the words, whereas I think hip hop sometimes is about the words more
than it is the music.
Hip hop’s aimed at the younger generation. I don’t think a 70 year old man
would really listen to it and appreciate it. I think you have to be in the
same age group as whoever you’re listening to. I can appreciate listening to
rappers who are 30 years old, but you don’t really get any older rappers. If
you feel the music then it’s for you. It doesn’t really matter about what
colour or background you are.”
- Talvinder Bhogal, 21, from Ilford, Essex, is a student reading Banking and
International Finance at City University.

NEED TO KNOW
Street name Vinder
Top 3 albums:
Mobb Deep - The Infamous
Nas - StillMatic
Capone-N-Noreaga - The Reunion |
“I’ve been listening to hip hop since I was about seven or eight. My first
CD was the Warren G album that I got for my 8th birthday. The last CD I
bought was by an American rapper called Beanie Sigel. He’s actually in
prison now for attempted murder I think. I’m a student at City Uni. I think
that reflects where hip hop is at as a movement, where someone studying
investment banking is following the hip hop scene. It’s definitely becoming
more accepted “I think it’s the beats and the lyrics that make hip hop
appeal to me. You can relate to it. I think it’s something that you just
click with, and feel what is going on. You can understand everything behind
it. I don’t think it has changed me as a person. I think if, anything it has
helped me because I can relate to people. You can talk to people about hip
hop - it acts a good ice breaker. It has probably brought me out of myself a
bit more. It has made me a more open person.
“I feel part of hip hop culture, but I don’t think I look part of hip hop
culture. Today I do, wearing baggy jeans and a Carhartt hoodie, but when I
have my turban on and I’ve got my beard out, I look like a priest! That’s
what’s nice about hip hop: you dress how you want. It’s expression, so there
are no expectations. You can dress how you want, and you can do what you
want.
“Hip hop fans tend to be really chilled out people. They’re easy to get
along with, and approachable. They may look a bit intimidating, but they’re
quite approachable. There’s the stereotype that they do drugs and they do
crime, but I don’t think it’s true. It might be a minority, but in general I
don’t think it’s true. I don’t really see any violence because of hip hop.
Sometimes in a club, certain songs get everyone hyped up, but it doesn’t
cause violence. It helps you have a good time.
“I like the US rapper Nas because his lyrics are very deep. It’s like
listening to poetry, because there is always a hidden meaning behind
everything. I like listening to a lot of English rap as well, because they
talk about your own area. You’ll hear east London, and Ilford come up in rap
which is quite cool. The grime scene is good, but moving a bit away from hip
hop. Because you can’t really make out the lyrics it reminds me a bit of
garage. I think its still hip hop essentially but it’s moving a bit away
from it. I don’t know if it’s in a good direction or not. It’s definitely
more aggressive. It’s not that chilled out.
"...I DON’T THINK I LOOK PART OF HIP HOP CULTURE. TODAY I DO, IN MY BAGGY JEANS
AND HOODIE, BUT WHEN I HAVE MY TURBAN ON AND MY BEARD OUT, I LOOK LIKE A
PRIEST!..."
“When I tell people I’m a hip hop fan, they aren’t really surprised because
it’s quite a common thing. A lot of kids listen to it. People don’t judge
you really for it. It’s like “That’s cool, that’s fine.” Because there’s a
lot of hip hop coming out in the commercial charts as well, its becoming
accepted. Its part of music culture. I go to hip hop nights at clubs. You’ll
see a mixture of people. You’ll see every colour under the sun and a mixture
of boys and girls. It’s definitely a diverse range of people. I think the
fusion of Asian vibes and hip hop is a good thing. American producers such
as Timbaland have making Asian beats for years, so why not get some Asian
lyrics in there! It’s taken a long time to come, but I think its here for a
long time. I don’t mind the scene, but it does my head in after a while!
“Hip hop is all about freedom of speech. If someone wants to be racist on a
record, then that’s up to them. People have the choice to buy the record. If
people want to say certain things on a record, then that’s cool. That’s the
good thing about hip hop. Because it’s an underground scene, you can say
exactly what you’re feeling without censorship”.
- Chinello Fontaine, 21, from Enfield, north London, is a student reading
media technology at Kingston University.

NEED TO KNOW
Street name Juicy
Top 3 albums:
Ludacris- Chicken and Beer
Missy Elliot - Miss E. So Addictive
Jay-Z - The Blueprint |
“I’ve been listening to hip hop from the age
of 10. Back then, I was influenced by my brothers. I’ve grown up with two
brothers, and they were heavily into hip hop, so that’s all I was surrounded
by. Back then I don’t really think I listened to the lyrical content. It was
more the image, the beat and the catchiness of it all. Growing up with Hip
Hop, I’ve started taking it a bit more seriously. I think it’s more the
lyrical content that I’m into now.
“I wouldn’t say hip hop affects my mentality, because I think I take it for
what it is: music and someone else’s expression of music. I don’t think it
deeply affects me because I’m my own person. I just see how other artists
use words and wordplay, and appreciate it for what it is. When I’m creating
my own music, I just reflect my own life through the music. “I’ve been
rapping seriously for about a year and a half. I’ve been trying to get into
the rap scene since I was 15, but I wasn’t as serious then. I rap under the
name ‘Juicy’. Before it was just a dream, thinking maybe I could do it, and
it would be cool if I could make it. All my brothers were rapping, and I
used to look at them and think “They’re really good. How can I do that?” I
never really knew how to put my words together, until I wrote one track and
someone was like, “That’s actually good!” Since then, for about the last
year and a half, I’ve been taking it seriously. I’ve done performances, but
I’m still trying to work on my confidence. I did a performance in Wood
Green, north London, when I was about 16. I’ve performed at my university,
and I performed at an event at Alexandra Palace. That was for Children in
Need - it was for a youth day.
“The only tracks that I’ve recorded are features on other people’s tracks,
but nothing of my own. I’m still working on my demo. It’s really hard with
university work, so I’m just trying to get it together. I’m quite lucky
because I’ve got friends with studios, and they let me use them.
“When I tell people that I rap they seem shocked because of the way that I
look. I don’t look like a typical rapper, because for one thing, I’m female.
Guys especially don’t tend to take me seriously. Some guys are like “Is
it?”, but they brush it off like its nothing. Some guys are like
“Seriously?” They don’t expect it because of the way that I look. I don’t
dress like a tom boy, or a gangster or how they assume a female hip hop
artist should look. Even though I’m a rapper, I don’t try to put on any
persona, of a typical girl who is trying to be a little female thug. I’m
just myself.
"...I DON’T LOOK LIKE A TYPICAL RAPPER, BECAUSE FOR ONE THING, I’M FEMALE. GUYS
ESPECIALLY DON’T TEND TO TAKE ME SERIOUSLY.."
“Of course there are stereotypes of hip hop fans. You look at any hip hop
artist, and there is the whole stereotype of a gangster. The ‘Don’t mess
with me kind of look’. It’s quite aggressive, but not necessarily
unapproachable. I’ve don’t often see real fights, because of hip hop songs
when I’m in clubs, but guys get aggressive with each other and want to push
each other. Sometimes when people feel the music, it does something to them
and they just can’t help it.
“I don’t really have any favourite artists. I just like people for their
lyrical content. I like Nas and Jay-Z because they’re good with their
wordplay, but I like people like Ludacris, because he knows how to make a
good party track. I like feel-good music. In the British scene, I like
Klashnekoff, and I respect Estelle because I like the sound of her voice,
and the way she raps. I like her whole attitude. I don’t really like The
Streets. I think they’re fake. They just put on the act, because that’s what
sells. Hip hop is all about being real. I try to stay real to myself in my
music, so when people hear it, they know that it’s Juicy and not someone
trying to be something that they’re not.
- Aaron Brooks, 23, from London, currently works in a members club.

NEED TO KNOW
Street name Sniper
Top 3 albums:
Mase - Harlem World
Puff Daddy - Puff Daddy and The Family
Dr Dre - The Chronic 2001 |
“I’ve always been into music, but I started DJing around 1998. I first
started playing just R&B tunes, because someone gave me some records for
free. I started getting into hip hop tunes about the same sort of time,
maybe a bit earlier. I started getting into a bit of Puff Daddy, a bit of
Mase. It was around the time when Notorious B.I.G. was getting big.
“The first real music performance I did was at school. It was in 1999 I
think, the last year of school. It was a performance of the Notorious B.I.G.
song, “Mo’Money, Mo’ Problems”. I was the rapper Mase, and I had the first
verse. The reaction was really big. I’ve still got it on video somewhere! I
started playing garage a few months later, when I had the money to start
buying the tunes. I started emceeing in about 1998 as well. I’ve been
writing lyrics ever since, but just as a hobby really.
“Grime mentality is more or less the same as garage mentality. The music has
evolved, but some people take it the wrong way now. It’s just youths being
more expressive. Before, being an emcee was more of a master of ceremony
thing presenting the music, but now emcees have got their own stories to
tell. Its more of an expressive thing. People writing about real stuff
that’s true to them.
“Grime has got more of an aggressive nature to it, but that is both good and
bad. A lot of people just copy-cat other peoples’ styles. Some people are
doing it from the heart and talking about real life experience. Some people
are chatting total rubbish in their music, and taking it too far. This makes
people look at it in a bad way. If you were to put an overall mark on it,
you could say that as a music, it is negative for a lot of the youth. It
does affect them negatively. A lot of the youth of today, they feel they
have to be a certain way, and look a certain way and act a certain way. It
shouldn’t really be like that.
“My lyrics are mostly entertaining; a lot of things about girls. If I do
chat about beef it’s just
in a joke way. I don’t really chat about killing anyone, or stabbing or
shooting. I do enjoy some of the more aggressive stuff and I laugh, because
I take it as a joke. I don’t take it seriously. I don’t speak about any of
that nonsense, because there is no need. I’ve experienced beef, but I don’t
need to go into depth about that in my lyrics because people don’t need to
hear about that. They need to hear a good message - about girls, and good
things like this. The bad things that I’ve come across in my life and the
evil that’s presented to me is just temptation from the devil.
"...THE BAD THINGS THAT I’VE COME ACROSS IN MY LIFE AND THE EVIL THAT’S
PRESENTED TO ME IS JUST TEMPTATION FROM THE DEVIL..."
“I’ve been involved in a few things that I shouldn’t have done. I’ve had
run-ins with the law before, and I’ve been arrested, but just for stupid
things that I probably shouldn‘t have been doing. I know dudes that carry
guns or knives, but I’ve always tried to avoid all of that stuff.
“Most of the people I know listen to either hip hop or grime, and some
listen to both. It’s funny, but a lot of dudes I know are either currently
emcees and DJs, or used to be emcees and DJs. I think it’s just one of those
things that a lot of people were into when we were young. It was good in a
way, because it meant we were in the house recording tapes, rather then on
the streets getting into trouble. My lyrics have never really been that
violent. There might be the odd line, but mostly I talk about girls. A lot
of people talk about violence, and use more aggressive lyrics. I don’t think
the lyrics make people aggressive though. I think it’s more like people rap
about the things they do and the things they see. It gets exaggerated, but
that’s because everyone wants to have a story to tell, and the grimier it is
the better.
Words by
Matt Herel
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