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Devin The Dude interview by Kobi Devin The Dude Interview

interview 0260 added 22.11.04 words: Kobi technical: QED




Every once in a while you'll hear a line in a rap song that will make you crack up. Not just bust a wry smile, but actually fall about laughing. Not many MC's can take you there. Maybe Biz Markie talking about 'Pickin' Boogers'? Or Slick Rick's musings on Mona Lisa's "yea wide gap"? The next in line to that throne has to be Devin Copeland aka Devin the Dude, a Houston, Texas native who has collaborated with the likes of Raphael Saadiq, Dilated Peoples, Dr. Dre, J-Zone and Too $hort. The list goes on. And on. And on. After a month of dogged pursuit I finally managed to get hold of Devin. Rather worryingly he appears to be behind the wheel of a car while the interview is being conducted...

Kobi: So, what's going on over in Houston?

Devin The DudeDevin The Dude: Aww man, it's raining. I'm out here on the freeway, dodging raindrops...

Kobi: So first off, what do you think it is about your music that has drawn the likes of De La Soul, Jay-Z, Nas, Dre and Too $hort want to work with you?

DTD: Well I guess I bring a li'l something different to the table man, and I have respect for all those artists too, and it's like a blessing for them to even reach out to me and want me to be a part of their projects...I'm still get overwhelmed most of the time...

Kobi: No doubt...If you could form a band made up of musicians from throughout history who would you choose?

DTD: [Pauses] I would have Melle Mel, T La Rock... I would get 2Pac in there, I would have, erm... Doug E. Fresh [laughs]... who else would get in there? I would say... MC Shan...

Kobi: So you're definitely an old skool head...

DTD: Definitely...

Kobi: How would you respond to the statement that your music is like "modern day blues" in places?

DTD: Hmm... Well, I guess I take different mis-haps and misfortunes and try to make you feel better about what's happening and what you've gotta do to achieve a little more... coming from the bottom to get where you're going - I can kinda relate to a lot of the blues, back in the day, it's that Southern feel, I guess...

Kobi: OK... Are you happy with the reception that 'To Tha X-Treme' has got from the media and from your fans?

DTD: The feedback has been good - I've been getting good responses on it and the tempo is a lot slower than my previous work... It gives you time to just sit back and chill and think about a lot of the things...


"...Well, I guess I take different mis-haps and misfortunes and try to make you feel better about what's happening and what you've gotta do to achieve a little more..."

Kobi: And what would you say is the best show that you've had on the 'To Tha X-Treme' Tour?

DTD: Actually I'm not touring - I'm doing spot dates and stuff over the weekends, but a lot of cities have been showing me love, man... 'erm, I get a surprising amount of love from places like Seattle... and DC, I get a lot of support out there - that's one of my best markets....

Kobi: OK.... So what is J Prince (The CEO of Rap-A-Lot Records, responsible for bringing the world acts such as The Geto Boys) like as a boss?

DTD: He's almost like a mentor... Somebody you can talk to, y'know he's easy to talk to... he's cool, y'know. His relationship with the artists is pretty fair...

Kobi: Most of your songs have a humorous element to them. Who are your three favourite comedians and why?

DTD: Number one: Richard Pryor. That's because he broke a lot of barriers down. He said a lot of things that a lot of people were scared to say. It was political in a lot of people's eyes and it made them laugh at the same time... Next I would say Eddie Murphy. He proved that he could not only just be a comedian, but an actor and he's a singer, also.... he left himself open to be any character you throw his way, y'know, he can do it, so he opened up a lot of doors for people that way... I guess my third comedian would probably be Redd Foxxx... He was just real gritty with his... He was saying words which now, wouldn't be so offensive... or people would just frown on that, but back then, he kinda crossed the line a little bit, just by saying certain words...

Kobi: I've gotta ask: Are we gonna see another Odd Squad album in the future?

Devin The DudeDTD: Aww man, [Laughs] we was just talking about that… [Jug Mug and Rob Quest] like my homeboys, man... Every time we get together we just talk about getting our schedules together so we can get in the studio-time and get one outta the door, that would be real cool....

Kobi: …And is there going to be another Facemob album?

DTD: I'm not too sure - I wouldn't mind doing it because that was an experience right there... y'know, everybody's from different cities and you've got a chance to learn about different parts of the country and learn about different people while making a record at the same time, which turned out pretty good...

Kobi: Do you play any instruments yourself? I ask because a few of your tracks have a kinda live, acoustic feel to them...

DTD: Well... I play a little drums... I can hold a rhythm, but any instruments, no, not really - I love instrumentation and I have a pretty good ear for it... I know what I want at a certain time of the song, but no I don't really play any instruments. I wouldn't mind learning how to play the acoustic guitar though...

Kobi: OK.... Another question taking you back a little - how did you hook up with DJ Premier to do 'Doobie Ashtray'?

DTD: Well, he's friends with some of the people I work with as far as music, y'know like Carlos and Robert McQueen... they was real close back in the day. He has family down here and he comes to Houston quite often, and just being in the music business I always admired his work and likewise - he always thought I was pretty good myself at what I do, and he got a chance to here the album, 'Just Tryin’ Ta Live' before it came out and there was a sample used in that song 'Doobie Ashtray' - I put that beat together and we kinda just threw the sample in, put the beat behind it and just kinda played it and just had it loop throughout the song.


"...There's a plan it's like a big script almost, man...with the presidential stuff and what's going on and they're only going to tell you half of what you need to hear and half of what they tell you - I don't know what percentage of that is the truth..."

It was a good song, I guess 'cos he called me like "Man, I like that 'Doobie Ashtray', that's my song", so when we got to the mixes, we had a little trouble getting the song cleared, and I got in touch with him again... well, he was talking to me about it, and I said "Aww man, the song didn't get cleared"... [Premier] was like "What?" and we talked about it not making the album. He said "Aww man, well just shoot it to me, shoot me the acapella mix. I sent the acapella mix to him, man and he freaked it. I was like "Oh, OK..." and we pollyed back and forth to make sure everything was cool and he said "There's only one thing... I put some cuts on it, man - I gotta have some cuts on it..." [Laughs then switches his voice to Premier's rasp] "Yo, you want some cuts on that joint?" and I was like "Yeah". Then it was a done deal - he hooked it up, it was beautiful...

Kobi: That's some history right there.... How important was it for you to write a song like 'Unity' in George W. Bush - era America?

DTD: Well, it's very important not only for these times right here, but for the time before and the time in the future too.... [Hopefully there will be a time] when everybody realises that they're not better than anybody else and that they're here just to do a certain thing or to play a specific part and everybody is equal...

Kobi: And speaking of president's are you planning to vote?

Devin The Dude - To Tha X-TremeDTD: Well, yeah - I would want to but, it's who to vote for [that] is the question...

Kobi: Do you think The US would change if John Kerry is elected?

DTD: You know what, man? I don't see any difference... There's a plan it's like a big script almost, man... with the presidential stuff and what's going on and they're only going to tell you half of what you need to hear and half of what they tell you - I don't know what percentage of that is the truth... I dunno. They ask you to pick one man to rule the country but odd enough [that duty] falls into the hands of millions.... As individuals I think we all need to make a change for the better and to start helping each other...

Kobi: Any shout-outs?

DTD: I would like to shout-out my Odd Squad members, Rap-A-Lot, all the people I've ever worked with and all the fans and just for the love of hip-hop, all the hip-hop heads...Everybody who's trying to make it a longevity thing...the hip-hop community has opened up a lot of doors and a lot of jobs for people that I would like that to keep on going on and I just appreciate the love....

Special thanks to Jasmine Vega for sorting out everything on the Texas side.

'To Tha X-Treme', 'Just Tryin Ta Live', 'The Dude', 'Faddenufffaevebody' by the Odd Squad and 'The Other Side Of The Law' by Facemob are all in stores now.


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