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Mark B interview by Elplate 1, QED & Nikesh Mark B Interview

interview 0268 added 24.12.04 words: Elplate 1, QED & Nikesh technical: QED




UKHH.com tag teamed up and took on super producer Mark B. For years he has been one of the best known beatsmiths from the UK and with his work with Blade took exposure and recognition to new levels. Check out what he had to say about getting himself unsigned from Virgin, his split with Blade, how he likes to run his studio and what the future holds for him...

Could you fill the people in on where you’ve been, and what has been happening since The Unknown?

Mark B [photo: Josh Cole]Well after & all the touring & promotion of the Unknown my music quite unexpectedly took a bit of a sudden halt in my life which looking back is something that kinda threw me cos I thought we’d done pretty well. I'm the kinda person that always tries to make things happen for myself & I wasn’t used to sitting around & waiting for the things to happen like it was about to. I was caught up in a deal where Virgin refused to drop me & also I couldn’t just walk away, everything had to be sorted out legally so I could release music again. This took near on a year to sort out cos Virgin went through a lot of major staff changes & so whilst this was happening it kinda threw any creativity I had out the window so I just took things easy for a while done a lot of DJ gigs around the UK, built up my studio, went to Australia for a while & also thought a lot about how I would have to return with something extra special when it finally happened.

Could you elaborate on how your partnership with Blade came to an end?

I’m not totally sure how to answer this cos even to this day we've never actually had a conversation about splitting up or going our own separate ways. I think people just presumed we had or should split up cos Virgin signed Blade to strangely do a solo album. But anyway the one thing I would say is even though I'm real glad for Blade & his family that he did get his deal I instantly thought that long term it would turn out to be a terrible decision by both 'Virgin A & R' & also Blade to think we could separate for a few years to do solo albums & then have another Mark B & Blade LP. We had pretty much made it mainstream & people were starting to except UK Hip Hop music into their homes from seeing us & other artists regularly on radio & TV, so to me It was like starting from scratch again cos we had some good hype going on, the shows were packed the website was busy. I quickly realized that yet again a few peoples ego's had probably got the better of them & just waited for everything to slowly come crashing to the end like it did.

Could you see yourself working with him again?

With Blade ? Yerr for sure, to me I just wanna make good original music with talented people that have the same enthusiasm & hunger for this as myself. Over the last 3 years Blade has asked me on numerous occasions to do music together but I just felt like the time wasn’t right cos he has his own thing going on & he should express himself through his own music.

After experiencing life in the major label fast lane, what’s it like to be back releasing on an independent level?

Mark B in the studioWell its still the same amount of work but just in a different context, the hardest difference’s being is if your releasing music on your own label then you have to either find an investor or put your own money in & that’s where the struggles comes in cos the return isn’t exactly 'Richard Branson' like over night. Also the everyday office things like sending out promos & chasing people is a huge distraction which I'd rather not do cos I wanna concentrate on making music.

How many tracks do you currently have stockpiled with the intention of using?

I would say there are at least 100 good beats here & 90% of them will never see it out of my studio. I do get asked a lot for tracks & I know I should release a lot more songs but the trouble is I've got high standards & I've set myself a very high benchmark that I always wanna go one better than the last release & wanna work with artists that compliment my music rathering than just rapping over the beat & adding nothing to the song. I feel that of late a lot of artists especially US artists have relied way too much on the producer's name to sell there songs to the public rather than finding music from lesser known producers with proper talent & new more original sounding songs.

How did the partnership with Tommy Evans happen?

Me & Tommy first hooked up through 'Lewis Parker', I was touring UK in 2001 & was heading in down to 'Poole' for the very last Mark B & Blade show, I was on the phone to Lewis whilst on the tour bus a few days earlier & he mentioned that Tommy was close by in Bournemouth so he gave me Tommy's number & I invited him to come to the show & kick a verse on 'The Long Awaited' track. Tommy really impressed me with his stage presence & I thought this would be someone whom I'd like to work with in the future. After that we bumped into each other here & there & then back in late 2003 I was at 'Kung fu' & saw Tommy, we briefly spoke about doing some tracks together for his forthcoming album that he was working on. Basically after that he came over to my studio a few weeks later & the rest as they say is history.


"...We had pretty much made it mainstream & people were starting to except UK Hip Hop music...."

What are your plans with him are we going to see an album?

There is no plan with Tommy & myself, & he will also tell you that there never was. The 'Move Now' single was originally only planned for Tommy's album, which is out right now. I knew as soon as it was recorded it was gonna have a lot of wide spread appeal so I kicked the idea to him that I release it on my label just before his LP is released as a limited edition single which would help create a small buzz for us both, he didn’t hesitate for one single second to agree. I tested the waters with some CDR's & test pressings & 'Radio One' & 'Sky Sports' immediately jumped on it & then the very weekend before release I got a few phone calls from people wanting to sign it from me. The one I took the most serious & licensed it to was from PIAS (record label). We both took the single to the whole next level adding a new B-side, video & the much-needed promotion to the whole mix.

Are you collaborating with anyone else at the moment?

Mark BRight now I'm just putting all the music together for a new album, which will either feature one or two artists for the whole album or a compilation of British artists & hopefully one US artist. Also I've just finished a new single for an MC in Australia called 'Delta' the title name is 'Mayday' & will be released in Australia soon on 'Delta's' own label 'ATLED records.

Could you speak a bit about your production techniques, what is your set-up?

My studio set up is pretty simple cos unlike other studios it only consists of equipment that is being used on a daily basis. Its equipment that I've more or less stuck to since day one of seeing, hearing & felt was best for the sound I wanted to achieve which is clean, rugged, compact & affordable to a certain extent. I've heard some very awful mixes come out of big studio's & have never really impressed by seeing loads of equipment in a studio that never gets used so I wanted to keep mine very minimal like it was back in the late 80’s. Also I would add I've never really been tempted by people saying 'Oh are you going to get that new latest Akai MPC or plug-ins? If you have something that’s works well for you already why the need for change, I've still got the same basic samplers for the past 9-10 years - SP1200 & an Ensoniq ASR10. Recently I've also added a TLA Audio valve desk, Manley vari-mu compressor, TLA Audio C1 compressor & pro tools / Mac for recording vocals. But also I would say stick to what you can afford & are only going to use.

Can you play any instruments and how does this affect your production style?

(Laughing) Nah actually I’m not even gonna front cos unlike other producer’s I'll quite openly admit I cant really play at all. I think if your naturally gifted at something you'll just pick it up & put it into practise whether it be playing the piano, football or doing whatever. But I know what I wanna hear & know when things are in or out of tune. I think your right this must defiantly effect what I do cos I would probably drop everything in a second to play instruments & create my own music from scratch.


"... I know I should release a lot more songs but the trouble is I've got high standards...."

Is sampling over because of clearance costs and legalities?

Actually I think sampling has never really been gone from the scene, its just a lot more hidden now cos of the legalalities & costs of clearing samples, publishers have seen Hip Hop music sell more & more each year & have gotten greedy to this fact which has also pushed artists into making those poptastic ‘BS’ keyboard style records. Also what you have to remember is musically times have changed now from say 10-15 years ago. Hip Hop is a lot more excess able now & everyone is after that big hit record which to me is killing / killed real Hip Hop music.
 
Mark B [photo: Josh Cole]

Mark B [photo: Josh Cole]

Mark B [photo: Josh Cole]

Are you a strictly Hip Hop beat smith or are you interested in making music outside the genre? If so, what appeals to you?

As long as its Hip Hop based & I don’t have to change what I'm doing I'd work in any genre that fitted to my sound. I have no qualms whatsoever in taking what I do outside of my genre.

What producers and DJ’s do you particularly admire?

Just anyone with originality doing their own thing. Nappa, Alchemist, Dre, Premiere. DJ's Scratch Perverts, Woody, Blakey, Skully, Mr Thing, Chubby Kidz.


"...I would say in my eyes pretty much everyone is still overlooked in some way or another...."

What do you prefer production or DJing?

I would say producing is my first love, but also I love going out & playing clubs & gigs & seeing people first hand embrace your music which is a whole different feeling which sometimes cant be expressed in words.

The past 12 months has seen a selection of fairly high-profile debut releases from UK artists, who do you feel has been overlooked?

Mark B [photo: Josh Cole]As they say looks can be very deceiving from the outside but in general I would say in my eyes pretty much everyone is still overlooked in some way or another. If we all had the proper support of radio / TV & maybe even some more higher profile record labels behind us a lot more 'real' artists would of sold a lot more records & broken through this year, but instead as always it looks like its been a very long hard uphill struggle for everyone involved on all levels.

What do make of the recent developments in UK Hip Hop, are we on a slow course for world domination?

Well I wouldn’t quite say world domination is there just yet but there is definitely a lot of talent here that needs to be heard outside of the UK that people still don’t know about properly. I would love to see 'Chester P' / 'Life' / 'Klashnekoff' or 'SkinnyMan' in any New York cipher or club & just watch them take out all competition. I think if something like that happened it might just wake people out there to what is really going on out here. All people are hearing is what the big DJ only limitlessly plays & sometimes recommends cos he doesn’t want anyone to be bigger than himself.

What needs to happen for it blow-up once and for all?

Not too sure where to start here, firstly even though it might appear to be - overnight success doesn’t & wont necessarily happen overnight like you'd hope it would. It takes time to build an artist from ground level upwards which takes a good strong experienced team behind you to firstly believe in you, what your doing & wanna achieve long term, I feel when this motivation is in place it will bring out the best in the artist to concentrate on music full time & thus get the best results.

Any shout outs?

Yerr just wanna shout out the whole UK scene to keep doing their thing. Support real music, real artists, & check my website.

New album coming in 2005.

Perseverance & determination. Peace.


- Elplate1 | QED | Nikesh Shukla
 



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